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. >> they are trying to use the middle class argument that they used to get president obama reelected to get a fiscal deal done, the white house is focussed on the middle class, they call senators, and house machines and tell them, -- house numbers, telling them, uncertainty is killing me but they fail to mention that tax hike with fiscal cliff, president obamaments tax hikes on those making more than $2 theft thousand a year, that will affect their middle class that their job creat creators the nor be able to y them. neil: the train has left that spending station. i should say that taxes will go up. leaving that aside. how do you make the argument that a deal by the end of the year, even if it is bad, is better than no deal, if ratings agents pounce on a crafty deal, let's say waded toward tax hikes not addressinggspending cuts, wouldn't credit agency seize on that and downgrade us just the same? >> absolutely. this is what we saw with debt ceiling last summer, we saw our credit rating go down. and if you want to talk about that, white house tapped tim geithner today, treasury secret
. >> they are trying to use the middle class argument that they used to get president obama reelected to get a fiscal deal done, the white house is focussed on the middle class, they call senators, and house machines and tell them, -- house numbers, telling them, uncertainty is killing me but they fail to mention that tax hike with fiscal cliff, president obamaments tax hikes on those making more than $2 theft thousand a year, that will affect their middle class that their job creat...
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. >> i hope my friends at fox are sit down when they hear this, it could be a shock, president obama didn't invent trillion dollar deficits he inherited them. >>neil: i hope this doesn't come as a shock as my friend the illinois senator we are now knee-deep in trillions of dollars of more deficits. and larry sabato with simple advice, stop blaming and start fixing. you are saying both parties are to blame but the attack on fox notwithstanding, i am wondering, are democrats overplaying their hand? >>guest: they will have everplayed it if in the end it results in another deadlock and the same is true for republicans. we are at a special moment when we do have an opportunity to solve a lot of big problems simultaneously from the debt to entitlement growth, to the tax reform issue, tax loopholes there are a lot of things that could go into this and this is a very different situation from august of 2011 when we had the big deadlock of the debt ceiling. this after an election. if we can't solve the problems now, when are we going to solve them? >>neil: i am not encouraged by the smoke sign
. >> i hope my friends at fox are sit down when they hear this, it could be a shock, president obama didn't invent trillion dollar deficits he inherited them. >>neil: i hope this doesn't come as a shock as my friend the illinois senator we are now knee-deep in trillions of dollars of more deficits. and larry sabato with simple advice, stop blaming and start fixing. you are saying both parties are to blame but the attack on fox notwithstanding, i am wondering, are democrats...
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when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an inate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level to keep this thing going. can it have an effect in the midterms? >> there's a difference between what president obama was doing in the end, and these big donors coming together in what mitt romney called the darkrooms. what you've got to have here is some of this big money sitting it out for 2016. they have to be focused on 2014 and try to win back especially the house seats. that's where the real difference is going to come. if the president gets another honeymoon, it's going to be over by february. does he get a second? >> the finances of the country is very important. but d
when president obama was there and you could try to deny him a second term. that was their organizing principle. that is gone. it's going is to be harder this time around. especially as the economy gets better. >> it's going to take more than grass roots. it's great they are organizing and talking about it, but president obama had an inate ability to raise big money. can the democrats duplicate that? i mean there's going to be somebody coming along and inspiring people to the next level...
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to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that
to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that
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john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the de demographics are non our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on borgs, but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> you say leave the issue alone. you'd say freedom of choice is this. >> i would allow people tho hav those opinions and respect those positions. i'm proud of my pro-life opinion and record, but i respect your views. >> as republicans continue to access their second loss of the presidency in a row, they keep grasping at all kinds of straws instead of admitting they were up against a superior candidate in barack
john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the de demographics are non our side and we are going to have to give...
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president obama will implement obama care and financial reform in 2013. three, government spending went through the roof back then. it's going through another roof right now. and finally, we have fdr's pledge to reshape society. he blamed wall street for the sorry state of the economy, bankers were villains. surely, that rings a bell today, doesn't it? all of this begs the question, will 2013 be as lousy as 1937? i'm not going to make any such prediction, but the parallels with fdr in '37 and barack obama now feed into that sense of anxiety, and there is a strong sense of unease in america today. debt piles up. ben prints trillions. the economy is sluggish at best. and president obama looks like he's returned to the campaign trail, three weeks a f he won the election -- after he won the election. president roosevelt's policies did not bring america out of depression. world war ii did. let's hope that is not another unfortunate parallel. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of markeng analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all
president obama will implement obama care and financial reform in 2013. three, government spending went through the roof back then. it's going through another roof right now. and finally, we have fdr's pledge to reshape society. he blamed wall street for the sorry state of the economy, bankers were villains. surely, that rings a bell today, doesn't it? all of this begs the question, will 2013 be as lousy as 1937? i'm not going to make any such prediction, but the parallels with fdr in '37 and...
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republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that was vigorously debated and comprehensively defeated just three weeks ago. i guess the only question now is, who will play naughty and who will play nice? let's get in our panel now. in a special new york appearance, msnbc political analyst david corn, author of too many books to mention. and in philadelphia, lehigh university professor james peterson. david, if i can start with you, as we approach the final tally, it appears that mitt romney will indeed receive 47% of the national vote. he i
republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort...
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obama's heads to suburban philadelphia. white house officials will say he continues to make his case to keep them where they are earning less than two 1/5 thousand and those making more. after a week of meetings of ceo and business leaders but not any with congressional negotiators. >> instead of sitting down with lawmakers to work out agreement, he is back on the campaign trail with the same talking points. >> the president tries to dramatize what the president shows the 60% of voters agree the wealthy should pay more in taxes. >> and republicans are responding that house republicans will visit local small businesses to emphasize the threat to jobs posed by the small business tax hike. lori: the epa may impose new regulations on air quality and carbon emissions and now one of particular is trying to prevent them from going into effect and peter barnes has details. senator inhofe the most vocal critic of the epa, the heartland institute presented him with more than 16,000 petitions and that demand congress cohmad graner wro
obama's heads to suburban philadelphia. white house officials will say he continues to make his case to keep them where they are earning less than two 1/5 thousand and those making more. after a week of meetings of ceo and business leaders but not any with congressional negotiators. >> instead of sitting down with lawmakers to work out agreement, he is back on the campaign trail with the same talking points. >> the president tries to dramatize what the president shows the 60% of...
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meanwhile the white house says president obama called house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how important is it that we get an agreement before the end of the year? >> this is like the debt ceiling argument. people got into a panic. that's something we even imposed on ourselves to decide that the debt shouldn't go too high. so it's not a bad thing. same with the fiscal cliff. what are we saying with the fiscal cliff? we're saying the economy might be revealed to be what it's actually doing because we'll take away the artificial supports because we think it's held any enough now to maybe after itself. that might entail a step drop because at the moment we're giving these tax breaks, but we'r
meanwhile the white house says president obama called house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how...
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same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the 30s industrial plummeted 34 percent in the first year of the second term. >> that is a depression in and of itself . set in the overall depression of the 1930s. 1937 was a catastrophic year. >> steve: how did thereat look some >> not much better. what bailed america and the world out of the depression was the second world war. >> gretchen: exactly. how did you get out of the mess in the 30s. we don't want to predict that. >> steve: we are just getting out of two of them. >> i think the bottom line here is fdr's policiless did not get america out of the great depression,
same with president obama and think obama care and financial reform . attacking wall street as the villian. president roosevelt did that . wall street was the villians and shades of that exactly. 2013 president obama wall street is the villiage and then the rearrangement of society. fdr tried to do it. and president obama is doing it and run away government spending. parallels are there and hope it doesn't work out like it did then. >> we want all americans back to work. and back in the...
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bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> probably due for another obama. i think bush, like christie, is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm actually going to be with governor bush. condi rice and joe klein are doing a summit talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right. we're not going to get this country right and a the fact someone like jeb bush has become one of the champions of education reform to me shows how republicans can are have tremendous appeal if they go beyond the narrow agenda. >> what do you think? >> i think he has enormous appeal. a very attractive candidate. as richard pointed out, he is not the republican candidate we've seen in the past couple of elections. he has enormous appeal to the hispanic community in this country. he has a real -- he's been a governor. he has made decisions. he's worked with legislatures. he knows how to get things done. >> does his las
bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> probably due for another obama. i think bush, like christie, is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm actually going to be with governor bush. condi rice and joe klein are doing a summit talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right. we're not going to get this country right and a...